Comments on: The 80/20 Rule http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/ A brief guide to getting ahead in life. Whether it's pay, power or prestige, I'll help you make the big leap. Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:13:03 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Site Llliigghhhtt « Smarter Life Crisis http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-460 Site Llliigghhhtt « Smarter Life Crisis Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:33:45 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-460 [...] of the stuff you read gives 80% of the value. Stop reading everything.  Check out Paul Singh’s blog for more [...] [...] of the stuff you read gives 80% of the value. Stop reading everything.  Check out Paul Singh’s blog for more [...]

]]> By: 7th Heaven http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-377 7th Heaven Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:38:06 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-377 [...] Read On [...] [...] Read On [...]

]]> By: qatech http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-149 qatech Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:20:44 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-149 Very interesting... and i agree! Very interesting… and i agree!

]]> By: optimization http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-148 optimization Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:53:29 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-148 Hey Paul I loving your blog (stumbled upon) so much I decided I'd subscribe so I can read more of your posts in the future. Have heard about the 80/20 rule but never really took the time to look into it, so buying the book as a result of your writing. Keep up the good work :) Cheers Aidan Hey Paul

I loving your blog (stumbled upon) so much I decided I’d subscribe so I can read more of your posts in the future. Have heard about the 80/20 rule but never really took the time to look into it, so buying the book as a result of your writing.

Keep up the good work :)

Cheers
Aidan

]]> By: Paul Singh http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Paul Singh Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:03:52 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-145 @Bro. B: I think you might want to re-read the section about how *not* to use the 80/20 rule. :) Please keep in mind that the intent here is to see what activities generate the most results and give them the appropriate attention. @Bro. B: I think you might want to re-read the section about how *not* to use the 80/20 rule. :) Please keep in mind that the intent here is to see what activities generate the most results and give them the appropriate attention.

]]> By: Bro. B http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Bro. B Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:46:54 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-144 "... for many events, 80% of the effects comes from 20% of the causes. Business management thinker Joseph M. Juran suggested the principle and named it after Italian economist Vilfredo Pareto, who observed that 80% of income in Italy went to 20% of the population. It is a common rule of thumb in business; e.g., '80% of your sales comes from 20% of your clients.'" Juran and Pareto are talking about two completely different things. Had Pareto found that 90% of Italy's income went to 10% of its people, would Juran have said that 90% of effects come from 10% of the causes? This makes no sense, as the direction of cause and effect is reversed in each usage of the numbers, the numbers "80" and "20" being the only element the two concepts have in common. It comes of as arbitrary, wholly made up, and designed to sell books. It's not even sneaky. 80% of the sky is polluted by 20% of humanity, see how that arbitrary assignment of someone else's numbers works? 80% of cats are tormented by 20% of fleas. 80% of cakes are baked by 20% of chefs. It's all absurd and I can say I got the idea from Pareto, even though he probably never considered pollution, cats, fleas, or chefs and was only pointing out social inequality. It also implies that “… for many events, 80% of the effects comes from 20% of the causes. Business management thinker Joseph M. Juran suggested the principle and named it after Italian economist Vilfredo Pareto, who observed that 80% of income in Italy went to 20% of the population. It is a common rule of thumb in business; e.g., ‘80% of your sales comes from 20% of your clients.’”

Juran and Pareto are talking about two completely different things. Had Pareto found that 90% of Italy’s income went to 10% of its people, would Juran have said that 90% of effects come from 10% of the causes? This makes no sense, as the direction of cause and effect is reversed in each usage of the numbers, the numbers “80″ and “20″ being the only element the two concepts have in common. It comes of as arbitrary, wholly made up, and designed to sell books.

It’s not even sneaky.

80% of the sky is polluted by 20% of humanity, see how that arbitrary assignment of someone else’s numbers works? 80% of cats are tormented by 20% of fleas. 80% of cakes are baked by 20% of chefs. It’s all absurd and I can say I got the idea from Pareto, even though he probably never considered pollution, cats, fleas, or chefs and was only pointing out social inequality.

It also implies that

]]> By: Eileen Brown's WebLog : Lessons you’ve learned in life http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-130 Eileen Brown's WebLog : Lessons you’ve learned in life Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:51:25 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-130 [...] The 80/20 rule. [...] [...] The 80/20 rule. [...]

]]> By:   Some Lessons I Wish I Had Learned Earlier in Life | Cultivate Greatness Leadership Training, Personal Development, & Life Hacks http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-115   Some Lessons I Wish I Had Learned Earlier in Life | Cultivate Greatness Leadership Training, Personal Development, & Life Hacks Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:45:53 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-115 [...] The 80/20 rule. [...] [...] The 80/20 rule. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Jonathan Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:39:01 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-114 This seems like a pretty liberal interpretation of Haddad's Theorem. If singling out the significant 20% was an option, would we really spend so much of our lives on the 80? This seems like a pretty liberal interpretation of Haddad’s Theorem. If singling out the significant 20% was an option, would we really spend so much of our lives on the 80?

]]> By: Paul Singh http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Paul Singh Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:20:54 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-109 @Mike: I think you're taking the idea a little too literally. As I mentioned in the post, the point is that your inputs don’t always equal your outputs. @Mike: I think you’re taking the idea a little too literally. As I mentioned in the post, the point is that your inputs don’t always equal your outputs.

]]> By: Mike http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Mike Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:56:04 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-106 Doesn't this just mean that if you eliminate the 80% un-productive elements, the 20% becomes the new 100%, leading to a loss of 80% of the new 100%? I.E. 16% of the original 20% becomes unproductive if the 80% of the original 100% is eliminated? Doesn’t this just mean that if you eliminate the 80% un-productive elements, the 20% becomes the new 100%, leading to a loss of 80% of the new 100%? I.E. 16% of the original 20% becomes unproductive if the 80% of the original 100% is eliminated?

]]> By: 4 Steps To High Productivity at BobbySaini.com http://www.resultsjunkies.com/blog/the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-19 4 Steps To High Productivity at BobbySaini.com Tue, 13 May 2008 13:53:18 +0000 http://paulsingh.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-19 [...] your work tasks organized in a hierarchy of value and importance to the desired result. Apply the 80/20 rule over and over, day by day, hour by hour, before you embark on any task or activity. Discipline [...] [...] your work tasks organized in a hierarchy of value and importance to the desired result. Apply the 80/20 rule over and over, day by day, hour by hour, before you embark on any task or activity. Discipline [...]

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